.gin and .abk sound formats (Need for Speed mw 2005)(help)

[V12-POWER]

it works perfect, sounds really good even after trying different sample rates (which happened to not work right just using the sx tool) you can go for the .gin files if you want, im gonna have some fun with this. thanks as always bro

edit: even if the tool works great, there was a problem bound to happen. The abk files cant exceed certain size because if the opponent car uses the same sound set, there will be no sound at all (im talking about a total mute if you want to call it so) currently my modified abk has a size of 297 kb, which is not even that much, but im letting you know this since it can be caused by the game not allocating or not allowing to use more memory

[id-daemon]

The abk files cant exceed certain size because if the opponent car uses the same sound set, there will be no sound at all

This can be because I never changed the "total size of the bank" field. It was working without it, so I decide not to change it. Stand by for the new version.

[V12-POWER]

The abk files cant exceed certain size because if the opponent car uses the same sound set, there will be no sound at all

This can be because I never changed the "total size of the bank" field. It was working without it, so I decide not to change it. Stand by for the new version.

sorry I forgot to say, the problem is not the tool, it's the game. The AI car cannot use the sound set because the game is totally muted (music, fx, etc) That's why I said it was a prob a memory issue

[id-daemon]

I still don't understand how it could be game issue. Can you explain how can I reproduce your "mute" situation the check this?

[V12-POWER]

I still don't understand how it could be game issue. Can you explain how can I reproduce your "mute" situation the check this?

well just make one big abk file and then start a race, if the AI opponent uses the same engine sound the game will kill the sound, but otherwise it works if you just free roam

[id-daemon]

I can't reproduce your situation. I made 350k abk file for Porsche. And even if opponent uses the same engine, everything works fine.

Can you send me the file that doesn't work?

[V12-POWER]

well that's strange, here it is

[V12-POWER]

well that's strange, here it is

[id-daemon]

This file work for me. I only tried it in custom race mode, are you talking about career? But it must be the same.

Since I can't reproduce it, can you now set ABK bytes 20-23 to the total NEW file size and check if it solves the problem?

[id-daemon]

Just checked. It works in career too. So it must be some difference between our OS, memory or just random problem. Anyway, try what i said.

[V12-POWER]

reinstalled the game and re-made the file, it seems to work now

[id-daemon]

I recently checked some of the later NFS games (HP 2010 & Rivals) for engine sounds and found that all of them use the same GIN format, and its decoded by my tool. Seems this is unique format for smoothed audio curves and they never changed it through the years.

As for other engine sounds previously stored in ABK files, newer games use modern EA formats that they use in all their games now, including Dead Space 3, Dragon Age Inquisition, StarWars Battlefront, e.t.c. and I'm more familiar with them, I was able to decode/encode such formats already a year ago.

Do you still like to proceed with MW 2005 or maybe we choose another game?

[V12-POWER]

I recently checked some of the later NFS games (HP 2010 & Rivals) for engine sounds and found that all of them use the same GIN format, and its decoded by my tool. Seems this is unique format for smoothed audio curves and they never changed it through the years.

As for other engine sounds previously stored in ABK files, newer games use modern EA formats that they use in all their games now, including Dead Space 3, Dragon Age Inquisition, StarWars Battlefront, e.t.c. and I'm more familiar with them, I was able to decode/encode such formats already a year ago.

Do you still like to proceed with MW 2005 or maybe we choose another game?

fuaarkkkkkkkkk. that's awesome. The main idea is to make a encoder for the audio files, so it's possible to mod the existing files, if you want we can start with NFSPro Street as it's mostly based on the gin files, then it's up to you.

[id-daemon]

I can encode audio (already did it, remember the roar), but the problem is in those tables. I still can't decide how to make them for new files. Also, do you know if people was able to repack the data for Frostbyte games, like rivals? Those sb/toc files?

[V12-POWER]

I can encode audio (already did it, remember the roar), but the problem is in those tables. I still can't decide how to make them for new files. Also, do you know if people was able to repack the data for Frostbyte games, like rivals? Those sb/toc files?

Well remember that there are float 2 values which define the RPM. example, float1 has a value of 9000, float2 a value of 1000, right after 2 important values (call them "tablefields"), the amount of numbers in the array, at last one int32 defines a different value (a limit for the tables), the tables define the sound in the range of 1000-9000, and it's done within the value that the int32 gave. I'd picture the values 1000 and 9000 in the x axis of a graph, the max value of the tables in y axis and then the 2 tables created using the same amount of numbers that the tablefields give.

btw the repacking of sb/toc can be done with various scripts around the web, either for bf3 and bf4, or you could contact nofate or captainsplexx

[Ferrari formula 1]

Can you please make a decoder for NFS Pro Street .TMX and .ABK files?
That would be so awesome!

They shouldn't be different,but they're not decoded with MW 2005 tools

Here are the examples if you need

http://www.mediafire.com/download/wpz35 ... _FILES.rar

[id-daemon]

I'd picture the values 1000 and 9000 in the x axis of a graph, the max value of the tables in y axis

I know this. But the question is that they don't just make a straight line, the numbers are moving a little up or down, like they were adjusted corresponding to the waveform. I can't yet think how we can possibly repeat this. Anyway, lets try a line and see how it works.

p.s. thanks for FB tools author's names.

[id-daemon]

Here's a GIN encoder for you. Includes new decoder too, that will also print RPM values used.

Encode with 3 parameters: wav, rpm1, rpm2

All cars use different tables, so I just made an average, that starts on sample 480 and ends on sample 900 from the end and breaks it into small loops 900 samples each with an average curve line. I can make this all as parameters if you find it useful.

If you set rpm1>rpm2 it will try making GIN file for deceleration, in which the first table values are decreasing instead of increasing. (but i never found these _DCL.GINs audible in this game). Maybe it will be useful for others.

[id-daemon]

They shouldn't be different

They ARE different, and use another audio codec.

[V12-POWER]

Here's a GIN encoder for you. Includes new decoder too, that will also print RPM values used.

Encode with 3 parameters: wav, rpm1, rpm2

All cars use different tables, so I just made an average, that starts on sample 480 and ends on sample 900 from the end and breaks it into small loops 900 samples each with an average curve line. I can make this all as parameters if you find it useful.

If you set rpm1>rpm2 it will try making GIN file for deceleration, in which the first table values are decreasing instead of increasing. (but i never found these _DCL.GINs audible in this game). Maybe it will be useful for others.

How do you encode an archive? Using a shortcut and the parameters did not work somehow.